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2005-11-03 12:42:55
everybody was right:
Yglesias, bringing some evidence to the effect:
immediately before and immediately after the war, [the 'liberal hawks'] all thought the administration was leading the country into war on the basis of lies. This was, in fact, the conventional wisdom in pro-war circles throughout 2002 and 2003. The difference is that throughout 2002 and 2003 the conventional wisdom in pro-war circles was that the war would turn out well, so the dissembling used to sell it wouldn't be such a big deal and it was a bit naive of liberals to be obsessed with the lying point.
The lie here being that Iraq somehow poised a threat to the US, upon which popular support, such as it was, was almost entirely based.
Which runs along into Joshua Frank's complaint that the Democratic enablers' newfound spine is so much grandstanding, and even at that only overwhelming sustained across the board popular discontent has managed to make the backbone transplant possible. Among those 23 senators that voted nay Feingold and a few others have shown some signs of life.
update: Kevin Drum bullshits us with, "Liberals, for their part, need to accept the obvious: in 2002, virtually everybody believed Iraq had an active WMD program." As compared to extensive stockpiles we knew the location of and how to find that poised an imminent threat to the security of the United States? His point is irrelevant and probably wrong, as dealt with previously.
:: posted by buermann @ 2005-11-03 12:27:10 CST |
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